tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20755638.post4643969037749147243..comments2023-10-28T04:06:59.629-05:00Comments on Plaisted Writes: The Wright StuffMike Plaistedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18184502941014520240noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20755638.post-2039603316783981332008-05-19T14:56:00.000-05:002008-05-19T14:56:00.000-05:00Matt, OS and anonymous 2:16, your silence speaks v...Matt, OS and anonymous 2:16, your silence speaks volumes.Roland Melnickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09568209848803591305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20755638.post-2846416815384484602008-05-01T16:35:00.000-05:002008-05-01T16:35:00.000-05:00The reason why I never heard of "Chuck Hagee" is b...The reason why I never heard of "Chuck Hagee" is because the guy's name is "JOHN HAGEE." But thanks for your jackass comments, Matt.<BR/><BR/>Anonymous, I did go to the Media Matters link posted above. It was full of nutty comments made by Hagee and another guy named Rod Parsley. And they have said they support McCain. SO WHAT?<BR/><BR/>What the article DOES NOT SAY is what, if any, connection there is to McCain. The only thing mentioned is one rally appearance where Parsley endorsed McCain and McCain supposedly referred to Parsley as a "spiritual guide."<BR/><BR/>Big deal. Like I said before, are there any substantial references out there that don't come from Liberal propaganda sources (Mother Jones) or fronts for Hillary (Media Matters)?<BR/><BR/>Are either of those nutjob reverands, Parsley or Hagee tied to McCain to the same degree that Wright is tied to Obama?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20755638.post-57017669278850754292008-05-01T14:16:00.000-05:002008-05-01T14:16:00.000-05:00Melnick,Start here.http://mediamatters.org/items/2...Melnick,<BR/><BR/>Start here.<BR/><BR/>http://mediamatters.org/items/200803140013Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20755638.post-36489125002070355202008-05-01T13:21:00.000-05:002008-05-01T13:21:00.000-05:00Hey Melnick,if you never heard of Chuck Hagee befo...Hey Melnick,<BR/><BR/>if you never heard of Chuck Hagee before, why is it you know all the talking point questions already? We can all give you the answers, or you can use the internet to advance your tired thesis.<BR/><BR/>But if you haven't heard of Chuck Hagee there's gotta be a lot of other things you don't know. Did you hear Brett Favre retired?<BR/><BR/>Did you hear that some of John McCains friends include George Bush? Charles Keating? His first wife? His second wife's shrink, plastic surgeon, and banker?<BR/><BR/>Get out there man, there's so much left for you to learn.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20755638.post-85646525994921544052008-05-01T11:03:00.000-05:002008-05-01T11:03:00.000-05:00Otherside, your reference to "Chuck Hagee" was the...Otherside, your reference to "Chuck Hagee" was the first time I heard the name, so I googled it. Aside from references from Liberal Wacko weblogs, like Daily KOS, and your post at TexasHoldEm, I wasn't able to find much internet material on Chuck Hagee, so maybe you can help me, otherside.<BR/><BR/>How long was McCain a member of Hagee's congregation?<BR/><BR/>Did McCain proclaim Hagee to be a mentor?<BR/><BR/>Did McCain ever write a book with material borrowed from Hagee?<BR/><BR/>Did Hagee baptize McCain's children?<BR/><BR/>Also, I believe your comments about the Obama-Ayers friendship are disingenuous. If McCain admitted a friendship with an unsavory type...for argument's sake, let's say...a former KKK member who is unrepentant about burning down a black church, we all know McCain would be immersed in a whirlwind of criticism. Deserved criticism I would argue. Wouldn't you agree?<BR/><BR/>So when you say that a Presidential candidate's association with unsavory people has no bearing on their qualifications or character, you only want that standard to apply to your guy/gal.<BR/><BR/>Who you choose to be your friend, your mentor DOES speak to your character.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20755638.post-81941720801548093692008-05-01T10:44:00.000-05:002008-05-01T10:44:00.000-05:00OK otherside...you really should take a deep breat...OK otherside...you really should take a deep breath and count to 10 before leaping (without looking apparently) to the defense of your favorite attorney.<BR/><BR/>You clearly have fallen into the category of "Liberal-Frothing-At-The-Mouth-With-Hatred-For-Bush." You snub criticism of Obama by saying guilt-by-association is wrong and besides Wright-Rezko-Ayers aren't running for President. (Well no $#it, I didn't know that.) You then proceed to cite your own example of guilt by association where NONE of the parties are running for President. My gawd man.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20755638.post-11261382097366595222008-04-29T22:23:00.000-05:002008-04-29T22:23:00.000-05:00What part of "it's never the fault of a democrat w...What part of "it's never the fault of a democrat when the chinks of his/her armor are revealed" don't you understand?<BR/><BR/>It cracks me up when lefties bring up Rumsfeld and GWB...um, FYI, neither of them will be on the ballot come November.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20755638.post-12175791109174222842008-04-29T21:26:00.000-05:002008-04-29T21:26:00.000-05:00I love people who "challenge" legitimate bloggers ...I love people who "challenge" legitimate bloggers to come up with "valid" policy ideas, but at their blog have nothing to say like tosavoter.Other Sidehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06475658453374184885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20755638.post-51247544713749254742008-04-29T19:35:00.000-05:002008-04-29T19:35:00.000-05:00I see the challenge to actually come up with a pol...I see the challenge to actually come up with a policy idea was too much for you. <BR/><BR/>Fair enough.<BR/><BR/>On this week's version of "everything bad that happens to a Democrat is the result of evil Republicans and talk radio and big media and all the other monsters out to get me; but if the tables were turned it would be ok and there's nothing wrong with that" you manage to stumble across some good points. Though they are obvious points so the credit you deserve is limited.<BR/><BR/>Yes, the 24-hour cable news media is trumping this story up to be more than it is. Yes they are ignoring real issues on which it would behoove them to educate us instead of engaging in this pathetic hackery. Yes Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity and all the other brainless right-wing partisans who represent side of the coin opposite you are reveling in it for their own perceived gain.<BR/><BR/>Oh and just as stunning and original, the sun came up in the east this morning.<BR/><BR/>Pathetic journalists and political hacks like you focus on this crap and twist it depending on if it helps or hurts your side. That's the way it is because we haven't figured out a way to imprison partisan hacks yet.<BR/><BR/>The problem is Mike it's not just those usual suspects. It's also the campaign of some lady who's trying to prevent Sen. Obama from defeating her who's reveling in this and using it - albeit much more subtley - than the other clowns. It's also the case that Mr. Wright is obviously a publicity-seeking loon who is enjoying his 15 minutes regardless of the political effects.<BR/><BR/>This is how the most powerful nation on earth chooses it's CEO.<BR/><BR/>Think about that for a moment.<BR/><BR/>It's quite scary isn't it.AnotherTosaVoterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16530969681712342705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20755638.post-8103821104960806582008-04-29T19:13:00.000-05:002008-04-29T19:13:00.000-05:00What I love is the implication that every gaff or ...What I love is the implication that every gaff or questionable associatite of a conservative hasn't been disected for every scrap of hate or bigotry or insensitivity. Of course people are going to discuss the creeps--Wright, Ayers (the stalwart terrorist),and Rezko--that Obama keeps company with. We'll also discuss the scum that McCain associates with. But to expect some sort of unilateral truce after the smearing of Clinton and the smearing of Bush is ridiculous. Obama did make a mistake today--if I heard correctly--in deciding now to renounce Wright; that demonstrates neither leadership nor that he stands above this type of fray. Its just pandering. I had to respect him for not throwing someone he called a mentor under the bus.<BR/><BR/>But when all these things are finished, despite what they may have done to people's opinion of his character, Obama has two larger problems. The first is that he claims to be a leader, but doesn't appead to have demonstrated leadership on any issue. McCain can point to the painfully costly positions he took regarding immigration and the 'gang of 14'. Obama also claims to be above partisanship, but aside from the occasional nod to Reagan, he's done nothing to demonstrate he can do so. McCain, on the other hand, has a long track record of taking stances that confound conservatives and working with liberals. He'll leave Obama as the empty suit he is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20755638.post-46636616469666165472008-04-29T16:59:00.000-05:002008-04-29T16:59:00.000-05:00Here's the problem Mike. Strangely enough, Roland...Here's the problem Mike. Strangely enough, Roland is right about you building a straw man. Its not the right who is pushing this Reverend Wright crap. (I think a lot of catholics might sympathize with distasteful church leaders, btw, or did the diocese close down when we found out about Father Weakland?).<BR/><BR/>It is the media (ALL OF IT- not just Fox) who is beating on this horse-- and it is your girl's campaign who is most gaining from it and most pushing it.<BR/><BR/>And it is your hated wingnuts who are pushing your girl's campaign now. Did you see Limbaugh telling his people to follow her? Did you see Kristol editorialize about how underrated Hillary is? How about Murdoch? How about Scaife?<BR/><BR/>Don't blame the wingnuts for this BS, Mike. They're right with you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20755638.post-8000314582904264442008-04-29T16:02:00.000-05:002008-04-29T16:02:00.000-05:00One other thing: You guys are a trip. I think Ob...One other thing: You guys are a trip. I think Obama was 8 when the Weather Underground was upset with America. So he went to their home ONCE. They were never charged or convicted of anything.<BR/><BR/>But if we're going to play the guilt by association game, let's not forget Rumsfeld's meetings with Saddam Hussein (a number of times). And let's not forget how cozy Rummy and Shrub have been.<BR/><BR/>Go ahead and run with it. But bring the troops home first.Other Sidehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06475658453374184885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20755638.post-32262322145267990592008-04-29T15:44:00.000-05:002008-04-29T15:44:00.000-05:00Fork = sarcasm. Lighten up, Roland.Two words for ...Fork = sarcasm. Lighten up, Roland.<BR/><BR/>Two words for you Roland. Chuck Hagee.<BR/><BR/>And, what does it say about Bush and conservatives who are so closely aligned with a nation that abuses its women so ... Saudi Arabia. It's funny that the Saudis are usually excluded from those nasty comments made about Muslims. <BR/><BR/>And as someone else astutely noted, it is not Wright who is running for president. Last I heard, his comments were still considered free speech just like Falwell and Robinson's.Other Sidehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06475658453374184885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20755638.post-79695183583243133872008-04-29T14:52:00.000-05:002008-04-29T14:52:00.000-05:00I've seen you level the charge of "building a stra...I've seen you level the charge of "building a straw-man" at conservative talkers, Mike, so it's pretty hypocritical that you are doing so here. Like anyone was really going to criticize him for using a fork a particular way.<BR/><BR/>I suppose it would very convenient if the level of criticism were so mundane. Many people, including me, believe it does say a lot about his character that he freely admits to having a friendship with an unrepentant terrorist.<BR/><BR/>You also try to liken Wright's comments to those of Falwell and Robertson, but the big difference that you are trying desperately obscure is that McCain never referred to either one of them as a mentor, nor did he attend their churches for 20 years.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20755638.post-77626999877764350702008-04-29T10:57:00.000-05:002008-04-29T10:57:00.000-05:00Why abandon personal attacks when we all know the ...Why abandon personal attacks when we all know the facts have a liberal bias.krshorewoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00417863312104824551noreply@blogger.com